Whatever works! I have no set ways of doing things myself, and sometimes that works better than having every single detail of your life planned out ahead of time.
But she looks amazing in those photos.
If I ever meet her in person, I'd tell her, "Stop being so gorgeous! It's just not fair. Just. Not. Fair."
She sure gives a lot of information on her private life. Isn't this the fifth interview in as many days? Can't be good for a soul.
Well, she's doing press for A Mighty Heart, so everything comes out at once. Not sure when the actual interviews took place.
"Right now, Pax is sleeping in our bed."
I am sorry but this is too private. Why share this? ESPECIALLY when you know there are weird people out there.
Sophie
It never occured to her that maybe her "marriage" with Brad may not "work out", or that there are "accidents" and people "die"? She should include both, time with kids and time without the kids now, because you just never know.
I think she and Brad will be over in a few years. They just don't seem like a couple that last, y'know?
They just don't seem like a couple that last, y'know?
No, I don't know. And neither do you. I DO know there are a lot of weirdly judgmental people around who somehow think they know how other people should be raising their kids or loving their SOs.
I adore her interviews. For those who think she's done a lot of interviews look back on the media blitz done by Jennifer Garner to promote her movie and her upcoming tv show or Courtney Cox for that matter. Now that is a lot of interviews.
Brad, Angie and their family sound pretty solid to me. I wish them only the best.
Sophie- I don't think it's too private. Personally, it makes me smile to read that little tidbit. It proves to me that Angie and Brad love their kids more than anything and are great parents. As for your suggestion that Angie's "marriage" to Brad may not work out: First of all, they are NOT married. They are in a long-term relationship, but I highly doubt they consider each other "married". Also, I see no reason why they won't last. They have both said time and time again that they are commited to raising their kids TOGETHER and it is obvious they are committed to each other. They seem like a couple to me, a nice, loving couple.
All of that said, I am sure that Angie is well aware that accidents can happen and that one of them may die before their later years arrive. I think she was just saying that IDEALLY, they will spend their later years together.
Obviously losing her mother so early has made Angelina aware that people die untimely deaths - not to mention that when she first went for Z she suspected Z might have AIDS, and ultimately she was a very sick little girl. Angelina has traveled to war-torn regions, witnessed populations decimated by genocide, and adopted children from underdeveloped nations. I think she has a PASSING awareness that the world isn't roses and champagne.
I am astounded at how much negative sentiment there is toward this woman, and this couple.
One thing: there is a reason (or several) that couples NEED to have "their time" before kids. If nothing more than to know what kind of life you want and to know that you're a stable, loving, in-tact relationship so that you know that when you do decide to welcome children into your lives, you know who you are as a couple.
Erin, From your comment regarding relationships before kids I assume you spend all your free time counseling couples? PS- "Intact" is one word, not two. Spend more time with a dictionary and less time worrying people's relationships.
Erin but that doesn't happen with the millions of blended families all over the world. Many couples now come together with children from previous relationships, i.e. divorced man or woman with children or a single mother meeting a man (or woman) and falling in love. They like Brad and Angie do things in reverse. The children are there from the start and once the children are grown and leave the nest, the couple go through the just the two of us phase. Things aren't so cookie cutter anymore.
Exactly Erin. Good post.
By the way Christina, there is not too much negative sentiment. You can't expect that what people write in their posts to be THE ONLY things they think of Angelina Jolie. I also think that she is a wonderful and a very kind person, but I also think what I posted in my two previous posts, which is a response to this topic - which is her interview in Esquire.
But her interviews are not exactly what I like to read. She talks about her family too much and too often, sells photos of her children (no I don't care that it supposedly goes to charity, you just don't do such a thing). I have more respect for people who respect their own privacy and expect others to do the same. Which is not the case here. Does she have nothing else to say? I guess there are only so many topics.
Sophie
Lorraine, but it does happen to some. And it would happen to more if people didn't rush it. But then, for some couples things just go different ways over time.
I think there are plenty of families that start out with children and work in reverse. My family is one of them, I met my husband when I was pregnant with my daughter and he had a son already. That's life. Many people can build a great friendship without kids but then can hack it as a couple with kids...so that whole building a foundation thing is crap...it happens for some but not all. If anything it takes way more work and dedication to each other and the family to do it in reverse. If it's not how you want your life so be it, but it seems for the two of them that has worked just fine. Sharing about Pax sleeping with them is not to personal, many parents choose to co-sleep with their children. It shows she is a normal mother with normal battles.
Giving money to charities is her solution to stop the mad photography obcession with them. She might as well release some pictures and be less stalked by money hungry photographers, at least her way feeds starving children
But her interviews are not exactly what I like to read.
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Then don't read them. You act like she has a gun to your head.
By the way Sophie - I said there IS SO MUCH not "too much". Respond to what I write, not to what you think you read.
So I guess, Erin and Sophie, that all of those people who already have children and THEN find a relationship are doomed because they don't get any one-on-one time? Give me a break.
She answers the questions people ask her. You do sell photos of your children when not doing so will result in your being hounded until the press gets the "first shot". When you have twenty photographers clamboring for pics of your kids you can judge her.
No I don't.
And I am not going to stop reading her interviews, whenever I stumble upon them, just because I don't "like" some of the things she says. Some of her views on different matters I actually find quite interesting. Seems to me like you had nothing else to say.
Erin: Angelina already had a child when she met Brad, so there was no possible way for Brad and Angelina to have alone time before kids.
Good luck to them, but history will tell you that famous Hollywood relationships don't usually last until the "later years". I hope, for the kids' sake, that this one is different, but they are certainly working against the odds!
sigh - good reply! ITA :-)
Sophie: "Does she have nothing else to say? I guess there are only so many topics."
She is responding to questions that the interviewers give her. Therefore the topic isn't chosen by her at all.
Furthermore, the interviewer's choice of questions are driven by what the public (that's you and me) want to hear about. People are curious of what day-to-day life is like when you are an international movie star with four kids, born of four different countries, under six years of age. It's just plain human curiosity!
I'm appreciative and amazed by how generous Angie is in sharing her life with the people who are curious to hear about it. Unfortunately, that generosity also makes her very vulnerable to attack by people who choose to take a negative attitude to what she says.
Great to hear about co-sleeping. It's not too private to hear about cribs, so why would it be too private to hear about co-sleeping? It's like home birthing, or breastfeeding. The more we hear about it, from AJ or whoever, the more it makes it into mainstream consciousness. I spent time in Africa long before I became a mother. I noticed that there were babies everywhere, and I never heard crying. Mothers I talked to were baffled when I told them about how in our culture, mothers struggle with sleep deprivation. They would crinkle their brows and shake their heads. I learned that the difference is that they co-sleep, breastfeed on demand, and carry their children on them. When I became preganant, I discovered that here, it's called attachment parenting, and wow, do I ever get attacked for it sometimes. In other places, it's simply the way its done- instinctively and effectively.
It is possible to have children and find some couple time together while they are still children. I would imagine it is even easier for those with extra funds.
And as far as I can tell after you have kids they are never really "out" of your life. They move out of your house (hopefully LOL) and you have more alone or couple time but I still would hope that they would be some part of your daily life - through phone/email/visits/etc...
And if you have a lot of kids, that is still a decent portion of your time each day to make sure you touch base with each of them.
But it would be sad if you didn't take that time to connect with them, even when they are adults.
::Sigh:: Before or after kids good relationships take hard work to make them last! There's no right or wrong formula in my honest opnion...
And as far as co-sleeping - I was too nervous when my son was a newborn, worrying that I would accidentally smother him or he'd fall out of the bed, so I never would have gotten any sleep if he was in bed with us. He slept in a bassinet right beside me though.
Then as he got older, the times we have brought him into bed (because he was ill or a bad teething night or bad dream, etc.) Well, he has either thought it was party time and wanted to talk to me and hubby, or poke my eyes, nose, etc. Then when he does go to sleep he is a very restless sleeper in that he's all over the bed, he kicks/punches/rolls around... it is torture LOL
Finally DH and I like to watch TV/movies in bed - and most of the shows on at 9 or 10 at night are not really the type of shows that I want him to see...
The idea that AJ selling photos to magazines makes her a bad mother is LAUGHABLE. I suppose, then, you are all opposed to child modeling? LOL. How is that any different? You are getting paid for your child's image - and I doubt all those mommys are donating the proceeds to charity, nor do I think they are all socking away every penny for their child's future (although I'm sure some are, but hardly all). I'd do the same thing if it meant a MODICUM of privacy for my children, which for the J-Ps, it does.
Ridiculous.
I always find their media strategies ultra strange. Jolie shares way too much always, I predict it will backfire on her kids. To be honest she reminds me of a student (not a mum, not a mature giver, not a cracking actress), yes really a student who has just discovered that the world is in fact a big place and it is possible to live outside the bubble of your work or your own country. To me it just seems very strange altogether. She doesn't want to be remembered as an actress? Well it is her job that gives her the money to do what she wishes. I wouldn't hurt the hands that feed you, you know what I mean?
Erin,
I can see your point but that's not for everyone. I was brought up to believe we should have marriage before sex, but does everyone do that? Nope, so while it's nice to think about the way things should be; reality is life sometimes doesn't go how we plan it or how it should be.
Since this post is about Brad and Ang; let's use him and Jennifer's marriage as an example, they had me time, "did the marriage survive?" "Did they go on to have a children, after years of just the two of them?" "NO, so maybe knowing this Brad's perspective of how waiting to have a family changed, since I don't know him maybe it had been that way all along?" "Who knows?"
Again because she didn't go into depth about her and Brad's "me time", she could mean "me time" as in the house will be empty of children not "me time as if they never have a moment to spend alone without their children." Proof of they have had some "me time" is Shiloh.
And to the question at hand, I don't know what age I will be able to get my two year old out of my bed, I don't think it was as hard with the other three. I put her in her own bed and in the middle of the night here she comes. I now wish I had never allowed her to sleep there in the first place. LOL!!
Does anyone know what was wrong with Zahara when Angie and Brad adopted her? I've heard several times that she was "very sick" but what does that mean?
My 2 year old daughter also sleeps with me and my husband, same story as yours Melanie F.! she has her own room and bed, but she ALWAYS come in the middle of the night, and sometimes she doesn't come by herself, she calls me or dad, so we have to pick her up. But it really doesn't bother me at all, because is nice sleeping with her and also because when she sleeps all night in her bed (like 2 nights a month!) she wakes up sooo early, but when she sleeps with me we wake up at 9:30am! :-)
My husband and I decided to co=sleep with our daughter. She is now 19 months old and about half the week she sleeps in our bed and the other half she stays in her crib at night. There is NOTHING wrong with co-sleeping and the fact that someone said that they shouldnt comment on Pax co-sleeping just shows the ignorance of people. They are his parents and he is in a scary new place and sleeping in their bed probably makes him MUCH more comfortable. It shows that they are GOOD parents!! Nobody knows what goes on behind their doors so what gives anyone a right to criticize them as parents? If I was financially able I would have 4 kids too! Bless them!!
alexp: Zahara was very dehydrated and had a virus as well, I believe. She was also malnourished.
There is no ORDER to life people. Someone used the example of Brad & Jen's marriage. They obviously had their 'time,' but look where it got them. Brad is obviously a man who wants a family and Jen is obviously not a woman that was willing to give it to him. So their 'time' was a good thing. But life doesn't always work out that way. My husband & I were married for a month before we got PG... and while we try to spend time together when it's possible, mostly our time is spent with out 13 month old son.
As for her being a bad mother because she sells pictures of her kids.. I look at it like this. If she didn't, she would likely be hounded more than she already is for pictures of those kids, so she might as well, sell them, get the 'ohhhs and ahhhs' over with and give the money to a charity... then no one chasing her for the 'first picture.'
I love that she's speaking out and saying that Pax sleeps with them... Co-sleeping is a great thing, yet it is looked down upon because so many people feel it's spoiling the child or because it's dangerous. It's only dangerous if you don't know how to do it properly... There are precautions, yk? I love that they have family sleep and everyone sleeps together.
Now that is a picture of this wonderful family that I'd love to see!
"Right now, Pax is sleeping in our bed."
I am sorry but this is too private. Why share this? ESPECIALLY when you know there are weird people out there."
How is that weird? I see nothing wrong with a child sleeping with parents, especially when Pax has just joined their family. It's not like they are having sex with him in the bed, they are already said they are having a hard time finding time to be alone.
"It never occured to her that maybe her "marriage" with Brad may not "work out", or that there are "accidents" and people "die"? She should include both, time with kids and time without the kids now, because you just never know.
I think she and Brad will be over in a few years. They just don't seem like a couple that last, y'know?"
Well, they are not married for the very reason because they are committed to their children. As it was said before, Angelina already had Maddox when she met Brad, and she also said she was in the process of adopting Zahara when they began dating so there was already children in her life. Some people want to have children while they are young and not date for five years, then enjoy married life for five more years. As Melanie said, look at Brad & Jen. He obviously wanted children and they were together for about seven years & had four and a half years of marriage. They had plenty of time to procreate, but they obviously had different priorities. By the way, how do we know Brad & Angie won't last? You can say "I told you so" to me if it does happen, but I sincerely doubt it will happen any time soon if at all. I don't think they would be adopting so many kids and having children if they did not seriously consider their future together.
One last thing: Brad & Angie do contribute the money they receive for photoshoots (of their children) to charity and we haven't heard otherwise (like the charities did not receive the payment) so why should we not believe them? Its not like they do it every month. In my memory, they only did it for Shiloh's newborn pictures, the Hello magazine family photos in Cambodia(?), and some of Pax after he was adopted.
I really don't understand all of the negativity with this article. I understand that not everyone loves Angelina, but what she said is pretty harmless.
"Does anyone know what was wrong with Zahara when Angie and Brad adopted her? I've heard several times that she was "very sick" but what does that mean?"
Well, first they had to see if she had AIDS and Zahara was only a mere ten pounds (and she was 6-7 months old at the time). Ultimately, they found out that she had salmonella poisoning and she was hospitalized for several days. If Angie had not adopted her, she probably would have died in the orphanage.
So the two "Worlds Sexiest People" arent really getting any sex! LOL
"If Angie had not adopted her, she probably would have died in the orphanage."
There's no "maybe" about it. Angelina said that when she picked up Zahara from the orphanage, she saw two other babies who were no better off than her. They died within days.
This is partly why I have such a low opinion of those who hate Angelina. She saved a baby's life and apparently that's not enough to redeem her for breaking up Brad and Jen. That's nothing short of pathetic.
Its too private to read where someone kid sleeps? Are you nuts?? Look at all the crap that is on TV today and what offends you is that parents sleep in the bed with their own child? Why is it that people can sleep with flea ridden dogs and cats who lick their own behinds, drink from the toilet and step in their own poop - but sleeping with your child is crazy? Give me a break.
we co-sleep. I don't think it's weird to admit. I personally haven't heard of a pedophile with a parent/child co-sleeping fetish...
As far as having time with your partner, you can "spend quality time" outside of the bed if you catch my drift.
I personally don't think it's good to keep allowing a child to sleep with you. But I can understand why it's good for Pax. Whatever works.
However I believe children should learn to sleep on their own. It's one thing when they're babies but when they reach preschool age and still doing it then I think that's a bit too much.
When I was little my brother and I were NEVER allowed to sleep in our parents bed. My mom always said if we had a bad dream and couldn't sleep we were more then welcome to bring a blanket and pillow and sleep on the floor. We did on a few occasions and that was fine. Just being in the same room made us feel more secure. But we never whined or cried to get in bed. And I grew up fine! I will probably use my mother's method as well. I can't stand little kids kicking me in all kinds of places at night (I've allowed my nephews and niece to sleep in my bed on occasional sleepovers and lets just say not fun at all)!!!
my brother is 13 and still wants to sleep with our mother, he wont take no for an answer, and its all because he was allowed to do it growing up, so yeah, not good.
Most of us have the luxury of choosing the way we want to live and how we want to raise our children... just cos they are celebrities, it should be no different for them... we may or may not agree with their choices, but we ought to respect that the choice is theirs to make and it is not a case of who is right or wrong. Angelina speaks so much about her children simply because they are the priority in her life right now, just like Paris Hilton speaks a lot about fashion and other such trivolities because those are the things important to her.... Kudos to Angelina for making her children top priority... I for one think she can talk about her kids 24/7 if she so chooses... that's her right just like its our right to not listen or not read about it... Isn't it great that life is all about choices!
I'm a fan of co-sleeping and I'll definitley co-sleep when I have kids. My family had a family bed and I remember loving being in my parents bed and then I was very excited about my own bed with my own sheets that I got to pick out. Yes it is sometimes hard to get kids to their own bed when they get older, but forcing them to sleep in their own bed isn't a cure-all for fears and insecurites. My middle sister took the longest to get into her own bed, but when she did, that was it she was in her bed for good, no fuss or fight after she decided she was ready.
And lol to Heather, yes I can imagine it breeds a certain creativity. I don't want to think about that too much though, I'm going to dinner with my parents later. ;)
Erin, ITA! I think it's important to be a "couple" and get to know each other really well before you bring children into the equation.
And no, we don't co-sleep with our twins. The only exception is when they're sick.... I like to have them close by where I can keep a close eye on them if they have a high fever, etc. We have a king bed, so we all fit, but I don't like to make a habit of co-sleeping because they keep us awake.
In my (childless) experience parents do nothing BUT talk about their children and what they do with them: what they eat, when they eat, how much they eat, when they sleep (or don't), where they sleep (or don't), what they wear, how many centimeters they picked their head up off the floor that day, the day before, the day before that, the kind of stroller they use, the type of diaper they buy, their length, weight, hair color, eye color, preferences, and on and on and on and on and on.
But god forbid Angelina Jolie do it! LOLOLOLOL
PRESSI!!! Finally a light hearted comment! I love it..funny funny!
I think when angie said brad and her will have their life in later years i think she was just saying that the kids come first that doesn't mean they don't have their time together as a couple now she's just saying that when the kids are older then it will only be about the two of them and only those two people know what works for them in their life so who is anyone to judge.When it comes to your life would you like it if people were constantly telling you how you should be living it and how you should parent your children and telling you what to do in a relationship just because they are in the public eye shouldn't make it any different everyone has the right to be happy.Life is short enough so you've got to grab it and enjoy it while you can and do what works for you.
To all the posters who suggested that Brad and Angie should have had "me" time before bring kids into the equation- Are you trying to saying that, when she met Brad, Angie should have abandoned Maddox just so she and Brad could have "me" time?
Co-sleeping is definitely not for me thanks!
That is a boundary that I will set from the
beginning. I like my privacy and my space.
Why subject my children to images of me in
an unconscious state, drooling and farting?
Not to mention talking in my sleep!
I will save that for my beloved husband.
It doesn't matter what Angie says people will always criticize her. And she has always spoken her mind or talked about things others don't talk about so i don't know why talking about her kids shocks people. She has never sensored herself before kids or after.
I co-sleep with my daughter still at the age of 6. We left her biological Dad when she was 2 so it was just the two of us. She sleeps perfectly fine (all night through) in her own bed but we both prefer to sleep together. I hate sleeping alone so I imagine it's the same for her. There is nothing sweeter than crawling into bed at night and gazing upon her sleeping face. It's truly one of the best feelings I've ever experienced.
This is more for everyone who does have their children sleep with them. My family owns a funeral home and the best suggestion I can give is DO NOT sleep with an infant or baby/toddler in your bed. We have had MANY deaths at our funeral home because of this. Also I know from experience, my parents allowed me to sleep in their bed, and it made it hard for me to go to sleep overs because I was so attached. I think once in awhile like they say Sunday nights is probably fun for kids but it can hurt a child in the long run, and who knows maybe it wont for every child because their are alot of kids who dont die from it but I personally would rather not have the risk.
Yes we co-sleep and have since day 1 with each child. We still co-sleep with a 2.75yo and a 16mo.
Anyone with any kind of education at all knows that co-sleeping is beneficial and healthy to both parents and children. In studies they have done comparing children who co-slept as compared with children who did not, the results were very clear. The children of parents who co-slept were more independent, more secure, and cried much less. When they did cry, both the response time to the child and the time it took to calm the child were MUCH less than it was for those children who slept in their own cribs. It's more conducive to bonding, breastfeeding, etc. Babies who co-sleep are less likely statistically to die from SIDS than a baby who sleeps alone(except those children that sleep with smokers or substance abusers) Think about this...how long do you think the human race would have survived if we foisted our young into spaces of their own, away from the parents that could protect them from predatory dangers? It's a completely natural form of parenting. It's instinctual. I bought a crib for my first child, and after getting her home co-sleeping felt so much more natural than putting my baby in a room away from me. She never used the crib once, and all of our other children have co-slept as well. They are all the most fiercely independant creatures you could imagine. Sometimes, particularly during those very difficult 2 and 3 year old ages, the only time I had to really connect with them when I wasn't frusstrated was at night. It's a beautiful thing. When I think of putting a baby in a crib, knowing what I know now, it seems downright barbaric to me!
By the way, Amercians have a twisted view on this just as they do on breasfeeding. You go anywhere else in the world and cosleeping is a completely natural part of life with kids. It's freaky to me that people are so weird about it here. Frankly I would have more questions about the so-called normal psychology of someone who thinks it's wrong. PLEASE!
Kudos to Angelina and Brad! I was impressed by them and their obvious dedication to their children before, and this is icing on the cake.
Aaron Boatwright, While I completely agree with you that co-sleeping is a logical and natural way to nurture your child, I also think that the first part of your statement is way to harsh.
"Anyone with any kind of education at all knows that co-sleeping is beneficial and healthy to both parents and children."
Having an education and knowing about co-sleeping are two very different things. I have an education, but I had never heard of it growing up. Don't jump on someone because they have not experienced it in their family. You might turn someone off who might be undecided.
I had the good fortune to have an aunt give me The Baby Book by Dr. Sears when I was pregnant with my first child. (Editors, I am glad to see you posted Dr. Sears website) If I had followed my mother’s advice, I never would have shared this experience with my children and would probably be a heck of a lot more tired!
I co-slept with my first for 3 years, though the last two were for space reasons (we were staying with my parents at the time and didn’t have room for the crib). The second and third I moved to their cribs at 6 months because they seem to sleep better that way. We also have family naps on the weekends and those are usually all in the “big bed”
I am now pregnant with my fourth and plan on co-sleeping at least through breastfeeding.
Erin, TwinMom:
Brad and Jennifer had a lot of "couple" time but ended up splitting up anyway - possibly because they "left it too long". Maybe if they'd had kids, they'd still be together. They're just an example - I'm not too upset about their divorce because I'm convinced that Angie is better for Brad... they seem to have more in common and share similar views. Of course I don't know either of them so that's JMO.
And what about the millions of people who fall in love with another person that is already a mother or a father? It's not like they can ever have that "couple time before kids" either, because the kids are already there and it still works out well for many of those couples.
Angie was a mother when Brad first met her so there was never the option of "time before kids" for them. Brad actually stated somewhere that he fell in love with both of them, and really cared about Mad even before he and Angie actually became a couple (not sure if these were his exact words though). Maybe Mad was just another reason why he fell in love with Angie. They way she was with Mad. He just wanted to be part of that.
Raising kids together probably creates a much stronger bond than going on holiday or sharing a hobby or whatever else childless couples may do. Children, if they're truly wanted and longed for by both partners, give a relationship a much deeper meaning. Kids just take a relationship to a completely different level.
Hobbies, holidays, sure that's all nice stuff. They can do all that anyway - either with the kids, or when they're a little older.
Because, Sophie, y'know - they seem like a couple that WILL last.
Aaron Boatwright, you might watch what you say about people's education. That's like saying "anyone who doesn't breastfeed is stupid and uneducated". It's a generalized statement and very offensive. Besides, there are a lot of highly educated people who don't co-sleep. It's a matter of preference.
If you're trying to win people over to your side, that's not how to do it. You're more likely to piss people off.
You know what i like about CBB is the way you respond to comments immediately and clarify issues instantly - case in point, pointing out that interviews were done way back. And the way you stem the immaturities that sometimes spew. Gives you great credibility. Fast becoming my favorite blog. Keep up the good work !
Personally I co-sleep and really dislike the idea of putting my daughter in another room. Saying that, it is totally not for everyone and even I - a massive co-sleeping advocate can see that toes in ears and being smacked in the face with a rogue hand woudl be off putting, LOL!!!
I think that people as adults, like their own space and we think that babies also need their own space/room. For me, my girl sleeps so much better with me and contrary to what lots of people think, she does not feed all night because she can "smell the milk".
Anyway, each to their own and if you decide to venture down this path it is rich and rewarding, just like almost every other aspect of parenthood :)
Just to clarify..I meant "educated" about being educated about co-sleeping. I did NOT make comment that everyone who chooses not to breastfeed is "stupid and uneducated"--not only because that statement is redundant, but because there are many reasons why someone may not be able to successfully breastfeed. Don't put words in my mouth.
As for "winning people over" to my side of the co-sleeping argument, that's not my really my focus here. My point is that people should think about, and educate themselves about cosleeping before they spout off ridiculous nonsense about it being dangerous physically or developmentally to a child. (The exceptions being parents who are substance abusers or smokers...)